From tim.murphy at boeing.com  Mon Nov  9 07:45:18 2020
From: tim.murphy at boeing.com (Murphy (US), Tim)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:45:18 +0000
Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft -
 20201109.docx
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GWG members,

Attached is the first draft of a flimsy to be submitted to NSP 6 giving the status of GBAS Working Group.  Please review this flimsy and provide any comments by close of business Nov. 10th, 2020.  I would particularly appreciate it if GWG members who attended the various teleconferences would carefully read the account of the discussions and outcomes of those teleconferences to ensure that I am not misrepresenting or missing any significant discussions or outcomes.

Thanks
Tim Murphy
Rapportuer of GBAS Working Group
Senior Technical Fellow
Communications, Navigation and Surveillance - BCA - Airplane Systems
Office (425) 965-6744 - Cell (425) 280-6844 - Fax (425) 342-5812



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From Natalia.CASTRILLOMERLAN at gsa.europa.eu  Tue Nov 10 04:37:24 2020
From: Natalia.CASTRILLOMERLAN at gsa.europa.eu (CASTRILLO MERLAN Natalia EXT)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 11:37:24 +0000
Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft -
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Dear Tim,

Thanks for the report. Please find attached some modifications marked with track changes. The comments explain some of the changes.
I?m available for further clarifications if needed.

Best regards,
Natalia

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Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft - 20201109.docx

GWG members,

Attached is the first draft of a flimsy to be submitted to NSP 6 giving the status of GBAS Working Group.  Please review this flimsy and provide any comments by close of business Nov. 10th, 2020.  I would particularly appreciate it if GWG members who attended the various teleconferences would carefully read the account of the discussions and outcomes of those teleconferences to ensure that I am not misrepresenting or missing any significant discussions or outcomes.

Thanks
Tim Murphy
Rapportuer of GBAS Working Group
Senior Technical Fellow
Communications, Navigation and Surveillance - BCA - Airplane Systems
Office (425) 965-6744 - Cell (425) 280-6844 - Fax (425) 342-5812




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From Natalia.CASTRILLOMERLAN at gsa.europa.eu  Wed Nov 11 11:45:57 2020
From: Natalia.CASTRILLOMERLAN at gsa.europa.eu (CASTRILLO MERLAN Natalia EXT)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 18:45:57 +0000
Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft -
 20201109.docx
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Dear Tim,

Please find attached a review of Flimsy 24, reflecting some comments that we provided in the previous version and which were not implemented.

Thank you and kind regards,
Natalia

From: CASTRILLO MERLAN Natalia EXT
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2020 12:37
To: 'Murphy (US), Tim' <tim.murphy at boeing.com>; nspcsg at aeronav.net
Cc: joel.wichgers at collins.com; Butsch, Felix <felix.butsch at dfs.de>
Subject: RE: NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft - 20201109.docx

Dear Tim,

Thanks for the report. Please find attached some modifications marked with track changes. The comments explain some of the changes.
I?m available for further clarifications if needed.

Best regards,
Natalia

From: Nspcsg <nspcsg-bounces at aeronav.net<mailto:nspcsg-bounces at aeronav.net>> On Behalf Of Murphy (US), Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 November 2020 15:45
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Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft - 20201109.docx

GWG members,

Attached is the first draft of a flimsy to be submitted to NSP 6 giving the status of GBAS Working Group.  Please review this flimsy and provide any comments by close of business Nov. 10th, 2020.  I would particularly appreciate it if GWG members who attended the various teleconferences would carefully read the account of the discussions and outcomes of those teleconferences to ensure that I am not misrepresenting or missing any significant discussions or outcomes.

Thanks
Tim Murphy
Rapportuer of GBAS Working Group
Senior Technical Fellow
Communications, Navigation and Surveillance - BCA - Airplane Systems
Office (425) 965-6744 - Cell (425) 280-6844 - Fax (425) 342-5812




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From tim.murphy at boeing.com  Wed Nov 11 15:32:30 2020
From: tim.murphy at boeing.com (Murphy (US), Tim)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 22:32:30 +0000
Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft -
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Natalia,

I?ll need to address your comments one at a time.


1)      We do not recall an agreement among WG4 participants saying that the proposed dates were not realistic, but just a comment saying that they were optimistic. Please remove the sentence.  ? Response.  I circulated a version of the Flimsy with your previous proposed changes to the WG 4 and leadership.  They suggested that the statement that refers to RTCA SC-159 WG 4?s assessment of it?s own TOR dates should be put back in (i.e. that it was an accurate assessment of the discussion).  So I?m inclined to go with them on this.

2)      In view of this new paragraph, please also add: "WP 17 proposes to limit the GAST-F concept to an extension of current GAST-D concept (based on GPS L1 only) to the new signals and constellations available. The GAST-F would provide the DFMC processing capability, analogue to DFMC SBAS and ARAIM" ? Response:  Accepted.  In fact I made your sentence the first sentence of the paragraph.  By the way, this paragraph came about because of the line you previously proposed essentially saying that RTCA SC-159 appreciated the fact that GAST F was an extension of GAST D.  Again the RTCA folks basically rewrote your sentence to reflect their perception of where WG 4 was on the issue.  I think with your added sentence it pretty clearly captures the discussion now.

3)      Please remove "a revised version of WP17 was considered", The relaxation of the EC proposed timeline is not reflected in WP17 ? Response: Agreed.  I thought I already had fixed this based on your previous input.  Was surprised to see it in there this morning.  In fact I tweaked the words a bit to make it clear that the ?relaxed? timeline was offered verbally during the meeting.

4)      Please add: "However, there is no agreement on the delivery date of GAST-F SARPs. It was noted that too distant target completion milestones in the ICAO Job Cards may discourage the Member States to invest and progress on GAST-F - Please add: "However, there is no agreement on the delivery date of GAST-F SARPs. It was noted that too distant target completion milestones in the ICAO Job Cards may discourage the Member States to invest and progress on GAST-F ? Response:  I will add this statement, but I will also add some additional context to explain why there is no agreement. See the attached revision.

5)      Please add a footnote that "There is no agreement on the delivery date of GAST-F SARPs" ? Response ? I added a footnote


Thanks for these suggestions.  I believe the report is much clearer as a consequence.

Thanks
Tim Murphy
Senior Technical Fellow
Communications, Navigation and Surveillance - BCA - Airplane Systems
Office (425) 965-6744 - Cell (425) 280-6844 - Fax (425) 342-5812
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Dear Tim,

Please find attached a review of Flimsy 24, reflecting some comments that we provided in the previous version and which were not implemented.

Thank you and kind regards,
Natalia

From: CASTRILLO MERLAN Natalia EXT
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2020 12:37
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Cc: joel.wichgers at collins.com<mailto:joel.wichgers at collins.com>; Butsch, Felix <felix.butsch at dfs.de<mailto:felix.butsch at dfs.de>>
Subject: RE: NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft - 20201109.docx

Dear Tim,

Thanks for the report. Please find attached some modifications marked with track changes. The comments explain some of the changes.
I?m available for further clarifications if needed.

Best regards,
Natalia

From: Nspcsg <nspcsg-bounces at aeronav.net<mailto:nspcsg-bounces at aeronav.net>> On Behalf Of Murphy (US), Tim
Sent: Monday, 9 November 2020 15:45
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Cc: joel.wichgers at collins.com<mailto:joel.wichgers at collins.com>; Butsch, Felix <felix.butsch at dfs.de<mailto:felix.butsch at dfs.de>>
Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_XX_GWG Draft Report Rev 0 - Draft - 20201109.docx

GWG members,

Attached is the first draft of a flimsy to be submitted to NSP 6 giving the status of GBAS Working Group.  Please review this flimsy and provide any comments by close of business Nov. 10th, 2020.  I would particularly appreciate it if GWG members who attended the various teleconferences would carefully read the account of the discussions and outcomes of those teleconferences to ensure that I am not misrepresenting or missing any significant discussions or outcomes.

Thanks
Tim Murphy
Rapportuer of GBAS Working Group
Senior Technical Fellow
Communications, Navigation and Surveillance - BCA - Airplane Systems
Office (425) 965-6744 - Cell (425) 280-6844 - Fax (425) 342-5812




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From tim.murphy at boeing.com  Fri Nov 13 11:43:57 2020
From: tim.murphy at boeing.com (Murphy (US), Tim)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:43:57 +0000
Subject: [NSP-GWG] NSP6_flimsy_24_GWG Draft Report 20201113 - Rev 3.pdf
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Alessandro,

Attached is rev3 of flimsy 24.  It now includes an attachment with the proposed modifications to the job card as agreed in the meeting this morning.

CSG Members,

This is the last draft I will send out for review.  Please send me any edits, repairs, corrections, etc. by the end of November.

Thanks
Tim Murphy
Senior Technical Fellow
Communications, Navigation and Surveillance - BCA - Airplane Systems
Office (425) 965-6744 - Cell (425) 280-6844 - Fax (425) 342-5812
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