From tim.murphy at boeing.com Mon Feb 2 10:58:27 2015 From: tim.murphy at boeing.com (Murphy, Tim) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:58:27 +0000 Subject: [Nspcsg] CSG - Agenda Planning Meeting Message-ID: <95212778F0437B47B0CD13F004B2ABBE2090CF50@XCH-BLV-404.nw.nos.boeing.com> When: Thursday, February 05, 2015 7:00 AM-9:00 AM (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada). Where: Virtual Note: The GMT offset above does not reflect daylight saving time adjustments. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* CSG Members, This teleconference is for planning the agenda of the Ishigaki Meeting. We will: * Review the action plan and status of ad-hoc subgroups * Note new actions that resulted from the CSG/WG 4 meetings * Work on the agenda for the Ishigaki Meeting * Collect a list of expected working papers for the Ishigaki Meeting (please send me a list before the teleconference, especially if you can't make this planning teleconference). My apologies. This meeting was originally set for 2/3/2015. That date conflicts with the most important day of the ICAO HLSC which I am attending. So I hope this new time works for everyone. Thanks Tim Murphy TOPIC: ICAO NSP CSG Coordination DATE: Every 1 day, from Thursday, February 5, 2015 to Thursday, February 5, 2015 IME: 7:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00) _________________________________________________ 1. JOIN WEBEX 2. Get YOUR audio information from the WebEx pop-up 3. 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We will: * Review the action plan and status of ad-hoc subgroups * Note new actions that resulted from the CSG/WG 4 meetings * Work on the agenda for the Ishigaki Meeting * Collect a list of expected working papers for the Ishigaki Meeting (please send me a list before the teleconference, especially if you can't make this planning teleconference). My apologies. This meeting was originally set for 2/3/2015. That date conflicts with the most important day of the ICAO HLSC which I am attending. So I hope this new time works for everyone. Thanks Tim Murphy TOPIC: ICAO NSP CSG Coordination DATE: Every 1 day, from Thursday, February 5, 2015 to Thursday, February 5, 2015 IME: 7:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00) _________________________________________________ 1. JOIN WEBEX 2. Get YOUR audio information from the WebEx pop-up 3. Join the Audio: Follow the prompts and enter Attendee ID if prompted _________________________________________________ Join WebEx Meeting Attendee: https://boeing.webex.com/boeing/j.php?MTID=m7562d4b9a7d46138f0da814f16cf4717 Join Only by Phone (You won't be joining WebEx) Call in: 1-888-283-7545 (US) Caller-paid call in: 1-303-632-3002 (US) Show global numbers: https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessNumber=888-283-7545&accessCode=8133007&accessNumber2=303-632-3002 Participant passcode: 813 300 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are unable to join with the above link, then use the following information: WebEx site: https://boeing.webex.com Meeting number: 898 986 877 Meeting password: NSPcsg11 International Dial In Numbers: Argentina 0800-444-2351 Toll-Free Australia 1-800-819-453 Toll-Free Austria 0800-295-601 Toll-Free Bahamas 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Bahrain 800-4451 Toll-Free Barbados 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Belgium 22008215 Caller Paid Belgium 0800-7-6400 Toll-Free Bermuda 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Brazil 0800-891-2759 Toll-Free British Virgin Islands 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Canada 888-283-7545 Toll-Free Cayman Islands 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Chile 1230-020-5534 Toll-Free China 10-800-711-0892 Toll-Free CHINA NETCOM GROUP USERS China 10-800-110-0817 Toll-Free CHINA TELECOM SOUTH USERS Colombia 01-800-5-1-81041 Toll-Free Costa Rica 0-800-011-1076 Toll-Free Cyprus 8009-0689 Toll-Free Czech Republic 800-142-008 Toll-Free Denmark 80-889811 Toll-Free Dominican Republic 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free France 0800-91-5040 Toll-Free Germany 6951709628 Caller Paid Germany 0800-180-2521 Toll-Free Greece 00-800-11-002-3334 Toll-Free Grenada 1-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Hong Kong 800-93-0395 Toll-Free Hungary 06-800-16-893 Toll-Free Iceland 800-9160 Toll-Free India 000-800-100-1276 Toll-Free Indonesia 001-803-1-002-3334 Toll-Free Ireland 15245292 Caller Paid Ireland 1-800-558-970 Toll-Free Israel 180-941-3334 Toll-Free Italy 800-789149 Toll-Free Japan 00531-11-3768 Toll-Free JAPAN KDD USERS Japan 0066-33-830150 Toll-Free JAPAN C&W USERS Japan 0034-800-900239 Toll-Free JAPAN NTT USERS Korea (south) 00798-1-1-002-3334 Toll-Free Latvia 8000-3335 Toll-Free Luxembourg 800-2-2763 Toll-Free Malaysia 1-800-81-4406 Toll-Free Mexico 001-888-283-7545 Toll-Free Neth. 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Best regards, Susumu Saito ===== Susumu Saito, Dr. Chief Researcher Navigation Systems Department Electronic Navigation Research Institute 7-42-23, Jindaiji-Higashi, Chofu, Tokyo 182-0012 Japan Tel: +81 422 41 3191 Fax: +81 422 41 3199 e-mail: susaito at enri.go.jp From k-suzuki at hq.jp.nec.com Mon Feb 9 17:14:03 2015 From: k-suzuki at hq.jp.nec.com (Kazushi Suzuki) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:14:03 +0000 Subject: [Nspcsg] Possible discrepancy between SARPs and MOPS Message-ID: <6E95FEE47F872049BC617D8B65DD3D1ED63F54@BPXM15GP.gisp.nec.co.jp> CSG Members, I have just noticed possible discrepancy related to airborne receiver design space (correlator spacing and pre-correlation bandwidth). In the following, I extracted parts describing airborne receiver design space constraints, from both of the documents. (The version of the documents I am looking at are ones distributed by Tim prior to RTCA/CSG joint teleconference.) For me, it seems that design space reduction for GBAS airborne equipment described in 8.11.4.1 of SARPs is not reflected in 2.3.6.4.1 of MOPS. Do we need any action toward RTCA from CSG? Or if anyone knows any information on this regard, please share it. ?SARPs Attachment D? 8.11.4 For aircraft receivers using early-late correlators and tracking GPS satellites, the precorrelation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing and the differential group delay are within the ranges defined in Table D-11, except as noted below. 8.11.4.1 For GBAS airborne equipment using early-late correlators and tracking GPS satellites, the precorrelation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing and the differential group delay are within the ranges defined in Table D 11, except that the region 1 minimum bandwidth will increase to 4 MHz and the average correlator spacing is reduced to an average of 0.21 chips or instantaneous of 0.235 chips. 8.11.4.2 For GBAS Airborne Equipment Class D (GAEC D) receivers using early-late correlators and tracking GPS satellites, the precorrelation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing and the differential group delay are within the ranges defined in Table D-11, regions 2, 3 or 4 only. ?MOPS? 2.3.6.4.1 GPS Tracking Constraints GPS satellites shall [LAAS-303] be tracked using either an early-minus-late or double delta delay lock loop discriminator. For early-minus-late (E-L) delay lock loop (DLL) discriminator tracking of GPS satellites, the pre-correlation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing (d), and the differential group delay shall [LAAS-091] be within the ranges as defined in Table 2-6 for the applicable GAEC and illustrated in Figure 2-3. in Table 2-6, the constraints on bandwidth and correlator spacing for Region 1 are shown as 2 References: <6E95FEE47F872049BC617D8B65DD3D1ED63F54@BPXM15GP.gisp.nec.co.jp> Message-ID: Hi, The published MOPS does not have those changes since the changes were made after the MOPS publication. That is why we put the changes along with the TSO as "...Note to Manufacturers" (see attached or the link below). The intent is to incorporate these changes when the next version of the MOPS is published. These changes should be in the MOPS maintenance matrix. Hope this helps. http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgTSO.nsf/0/823FA7ADEE94541B8625768F007026E4?OpenDocument Regards, Hamza Abduselam 202-267-8625 -----Original Message----- From: Nspcsg [mailto:nspcsg-bounces at aeronav.net] On Behalf Of Kazushi Suzuki Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 7:14 PM To: nspcsg at aeronav.net Subject: [Nspcsg] Possible discrepancy between SARPs and MOPS CSG Members, I have just noticed possible discrepancy related to airborne receiver design space (correlator spacing and pre-correlation bandwidth). In the following, I extracted parts describing airborne receiver design space constraints, from both of the documents. (The version of the documents I am looking at are ones distributed by Tim prior to RTCA/CSG joint teleconference.) For me, it seems that design space reduction for GBAS airborne equipment described in 8.11.4.1 of SARPs is not reflected in 2.3.6.4.1 of MOPS. Do we need any action toward RTCA from CSG? Or if anyone knows any information on this regard, please share it. ?SARPs Attachment D? 8.11.4 For aircraft receivers using early-late correlators and tracking GPS satellites, the precorrelation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing and the differential group delay are within the ranges defined in Table D-11, except as noted below. 8.11.4.1 For GBAS airborne equipment using early-late correlators and tracking GPS satellites, the precorrelation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing and the differential group delay are within the ranges defined in Table D 11, except that the region 1 minimum bandwidth will increase to 4 MHz and the average correlator spacing is reduced to an average of 0.21 chips or instantaneous of 0.235 chips. 8.11.4.2 For GBAS Airborne Equipment Class D (GAEC D) receivers using early-late correlators and tracking GPS satellites, the precorrelation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing and the differential group delay are within the ranges defined in Table D-11, regions 2, 3 or 4 only. ?MOPS? 2.3.6.4.1 GPS Tracking Constraints GPS satellites shall [LAAS-303] be tracked using either an early-minus-late or double delta delay lock loop discriminator. For early-minus-late (E-L) delay lock loop (DLL) discriminator tracking of GPS satellites, the pre-correlation bandwidth of the installation, the correlator spacing (d), and the differential group delay shall [LAAS-091] be within the ranges as defined in Table 2-6 for the applicable GAEC and illustrated in Figure 2-3. in Table 2-6, the constraints on bandwidth and correlator spacing for Region 1 are shown as 2 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TSO-C161a Note to Manufacturers.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 115741 bytes Desc: TSO-C161a Note to Manufacturers.pdf URL: From tim.murphy at boeing.com Sat Feb 14 14:10:36 2015 From: tim.murphy at boeing.com (Murphy, Tim) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:10:36 +0000 Subject: [Nspcsg] Working Papers for the Ishigaki Meeting. Message-ID: <95212778F0437B47B0CD13F004B2ABBE2092D71C@XCH-BLV-404.nw.nos.boeing.com> CSG members, Do to unforeseen circumstances, Alessandro will be unavailable this week. 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